tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post2922315113480373881..comments2023-10-17T08:19:17.319-07:00Comments on Conditioning Research: Seth on FatChrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00223657383325055342noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-87727053693711077802009-10-28T14:43:49.014-07:002009-10-28T14:43:49.014-07:00I would be with Josh on this question. I think tha...I would be with Josh on this question. I think that animal fat is healthful and natural and I eat plenty of it, but it has to stand on its scientific merits, not the "tastes good" argument. <br /><br />It's well known that Cordain believes that wild animals of the type we would have hunted have relatively little fat. Perhaps he's wrong, but if not then the same argument would apply as that of sweet/honey: i.e. that our taste for fat would have been beneficial because we never would have been able to satisfy it (but we can oversupply it in the modern world).<br /><br />As I say, I don't believe that to be the case, but it's logically possible.<br /><br />Bread is very satisfying and filling, and not primarily because it's "sweet", but of course it's totally unnatural and does great harm.<br /><br />Same argument for cocaine or coffee, etc..^https://www.blogger.com/profile/14209117357558394101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-1035802735703087352009-10-28T11:23:10.395-07:002009-10-28T11:23:10.395-07:00Agriculture developed as a consequence of the need...Agriculture developed as a consequence of the need for food due to the lack of big wild game. They were not likely to have been hunted out of extinction so much as the environment could no longer sustain them in large populations. Human hunting is coincidental. <br /><br />As the wild game dwindled, ruminants, who can be considered large game by the way, were domesticated in large numbers and food was grown for them. Agriculture started as a way to support the domesticated animals which humans ate, not really as a direct food source.Marneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13581045023000720429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-84233276943270264982009-10-28T10:19:06.487-07:002009-10-28T10:19:06.487-07:00And to Josh,
The thing is that animal fat is natu...And to Josh,<br /><br />The thing is that animal fat is naturally occuring, whereas the only time you'd find sugar in concentrated form would be in honey really (not even sugar cane offers as dence a sugar source). So when hunter gatherers find honey they devour it, and they do the same for fat. But they only find honey once in a while, and they find fat all the time. If you only gorge yourself on sugar occasionally, but fat regularly, you'll have hunter gatherer health - i.e. good teeth, strong bones, and no modern diseases . . .Brycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07485589400686017338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-51386666778649924022009-10-28T10:16:37.349-07:002009-10-28T10:16:37.349-07:00Amen!
I'd say big game went extinct because a...Amen!<br /><br />I'd say big game went extinct because agriculture so completely changed the land scape that entire species were decimated, like salmon and buffalo (less than 1% of buffalo remain!). As their natural habitats were obliterated (the American prarie is 99% gone and most of our large rivers are damned), many species found it harder to breed, eat, etc. <br /><br />Furthermore, the agricultural population explosion made it hard for animal food sources to keep up with the caloric demand of our numbers.<br /><br />Good stuff Chris. You can probably tell I've been reading Vegetarian Myth, as it does an excellent job making the case against agriculture.Brycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07485589400686017338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-20531985719400993952009-10-28T08:58:55.161-07:002009-10-28T08:58:55.161-07:00I really dislike when people rationalize humans...I really dislike when people rationalize humans' need for fat because it "tastes good" or how we crave a juicy, rare steak.<br />Know what else people have cravings for? Cotton Candy, Soda, Pizza, French Fries... etc <br /><br />Just because something tastes good to us or we crave it is a bad reason to say we need it, because you can rationalize anything using that line of thought.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15933512365511555052noreply@blogger.com