tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post5129823247306241911..comments2023-10-17T08:19:17.319-07:00Comments on Conditioning Research: Intervals don't take long...and can prevent diabetes?Chrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00223657383325055342noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-19626807883006388842010-09-09T22:04:51.735-07:002010-09-09T22:04:51.735-07:00Insulin tablets are useful for type 2 diabetes.Insulin tablets are useful for type 2 diabetes.Generic Levitra onlinehttp://www.healthpharmarx.com/purchase/generic-levitra.aspxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-62461778935153807392009-02-02T09:14:00.000-08:002009-02-02T09:14:00.000-08:00-Inactivity is the main cause of Type II diabetes,...-Inactivity is the main cause of Type II diabetes, eating large amounts of carbohydrates is not a problem whatsoever. If you are sufficiently active your diet does not really make much difference, whether it is high fat, high protein or high carbohydrate. Research suggests a high carbohydrate diet to be the healthiest option.<BR/><BR/>Ouch! :(<BR/><BR/>Tell that to my skinny active running walking cousin who has many signs of insulin resistance.<BR/><BR/>Tell that to his skinny active running walking swimming marathoning triathloning daughter who at half his age has even more signs of insulin resistance.<BR/><BR/>Tell that to me after fifty years of reactive hypoglycemia and appalling lipids which have mysteriously normalised on a diet of around 60 - 100g carbs which has also greatly improved my energy levels, although I was never inactive either. And the only time I put on weight and became lazy was when I was put on a Heart Healthy Low Fat High Carb diet. Made my lipids and BP significantly worse too.<BR/><BR/>I find significant differences in the effects of exercise depending how close to the meal they are, long term stuff like walking serves to keep the blood glucose in range and the *familial* insulin resistance down, short bursts of exercise immediately after eating while my funky pancreas has actually decided to generate some insulin can actually send me temporarily hypo. The downside of that is the effect on cortisol and epinephrine etc. which may outweigh the direct effect on IR and glucose disposition.<BR/><BR/>Certainly looks like something well worth experimenting with but probably not doable for everyone (there are somewhere over 50 genes now associated with Type 2 and others associated with obesity and MODY diabetes so it is certainly NOT a unitary disease and while environment certainly alters the gene expression it is in no way The Cause)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-53068815050231094442009-01-30T04:12:00.000-08:002009-01-30T04:12:00.000-08:00I have a very sad life..... ;-)I have a very sad life..... ;-)Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223657383325055342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-69549524558551937032009-01-30T03:11:00.000-08:002009-01-30T03:11:00.000-08:00Chris - excellent work. I am not sure how you man...Chris - excellent work. I am not sure how you manage to find all this stuff but it is great that you pull it all together in one place!<BR/><BR/>Looks like I have got some reading to do! ;)Asclepiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14604117979253596512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-57663699765400834452009-01-29T15:39:00.000-08:002009-01-29T15:39:00.000-08:00Stephan I'm not sure but it would make sense and t...Stephan <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure but it would make sense and there are studies out there - e.g. <A HREF="http://www.springerlink.com/content/77768n3500803w80/" REL="nofollow">this one</A> - that indicate that weight training improves insulin sensitivity.<BR/><BR/>There are several others out there.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223657383325055342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-79447314857762560422009-01-29T15:31:00.000-08:002009-01-29T15:31:00.000-08:00Keith the full paper is linked above and does give...Keith <BR/><BR/>the full paper is linked above and does give more information that the abstract. 4-6 sprints with 4 minute recoveries between each.<BR/><BR/>With respect to shorter bursts, <A HREF="http://conditioningresearch.blogspot.com/2008/01/lose-fat-off-your-legs-and-trunk-with.html" REL="nofollow">this post</A> looked at 8 second sprints which were really good fat burners.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223657383325055342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-3697726563368366022009-01-29T15:28:00.000-08:002009-01-29T15:28:00.000-08:00Chris,That HIT study you posted is very impressive...Chris,<BR/><BR/>That HIT study you posted is very impressive! 37% reduction in the insulin AUC. If what matters is intense muscle contraction, then you'd expect weight training to do the same. Do you know if that's the case?Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-1110900720497179392009-01-29T15:19:00.000-08:002009-01-29T15:19:00.000-08:00Asclepiusthanks for that. All the tired old ortho...Asclepius<BR/><BR/>thanks for that. All the tired old orthodoxy that is actually a pile of crap! <BR/><BR/>A high fat diet is great and endurance performance - especially - is fuelled by fat not carbs and is perfectly OK on a ketogenic diet - there is a guy called Phinney who has done a lot of research on low carb diets for endurance - e.g. see this <A HREF="http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/1/1/2/?mkt=37278" REL="nofollow">paper</A><BR/><BR/>or this <A HREF="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6865776" REL="nofollow">one</A><BR/><BR/>in many ways this is not a new idea although this guy presents it as if it is something novel. For example <A HREF="http://conditioningresearch.blogspot.com/2008/01/lose-fat-off-your-legs-and-trunk-with.html" REL="nofollow">this post</A> from about a year ago looked at research - the whoel PhD is available - about intervals of 8 seconds on and 12 off.<BR/><BR/>Cheers again<BR/><BR/>ChrisChrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223657383325055342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-58223826569160491382009-01-29T13:26:00.000-08:002009-01-29T13:26:00.000-08:00From the UKClimbing website thread referred to abo...From the UKClimbing website thread referred to above:<BR/><BR/>=================================<BR/>Good to see some interest in this paper! I was leading this study at Heriot-Watt University (Professor Timmons funded it). <BR/><BR/>-we believe the key mechanism for the effects of our protocol to be the rapid decrease in muscle glycogen (~33% decrease in one session / 4 x 30 sec sprints). With running this would take far longer (faster with increasing intensities), whereas jogging hardly reduces muscle glycogen at all. Liver glycogen is not important in this (liver glycogen is depleted overnight and repleted during the day).<BR/><BR/>-Inactivity is the main cause of Type II diabetes, eating large amounts of carbohydrates is not a problem whatsoever. If you are sufficiently active your diet does not really make much difference, whether it is high fat, high protein or high carbohydrate. Research suggests a high carbohydrate diet to be the healthiest option. This is despite the fact that a wide range of other diets have been shown to reduce body mass. You should bear in mind that loosing weight depends on the balance between calorie-intake and calorie expenditure, and NOT on whether these calories come from fat or carbohydrates. However, body weight is not the only important health parameter: a high fat diet increases health risks through other mechanisms. Moreover, endurance performance benefits from a high carbohydrate diet. <BR/><BR/>-On the applicability of our protocol: this stuff works amazingly well, but is NOT an easy option, 4 x 30 second Wingate tests are very tiring. However, it not only reduces risk of insulin resistance / diabetes, it also improves aerobic performance / endurance. This won’t improve your climbing performance, but is very useful for long days in the mountains / walk-ins / etc. You can get similar adaptations with endurance training, but this takes far more time.Asclepiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14604117979253596512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-79959492823448894662009-01-29T12:46:00.000-08:002009-01-29T12:46:00.000-08:00In regard to the intervals/fat loss study, it look...In regard to the intervals/fat loss study, it looks as if (from the abstract, at least) that these are what I would consider very long bursts. That, and I cannot tell how many bursts were performed (surely not an hour's worth). I'd like to see the same study done using a protocol of *very* high intensity bursts (i.e., max power output, <20 sec's duration). Empirically speaking, I know this kind of short-burst, intermittent intensity is highly effective at cutting fat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-91242729035147862452009-01-29T09:28:00.000-08:002009-01-29T09:28:00.000-08:00Chris, this idea--that short bursts of intense exe...Chris, this idea--that short bursts of intense exercise would improve insulin responsiveness--makes a lot of sense. I hope the investigators go ahead and see if this holds true for older subjects who have had more time to become insulin resistant or pre-diabetic.<BR/><BR/>Regarding the Jimmy-Moore-in-denial-about-his-menus situation, I think I shall go with your advice and just stay quiet. He seems to have serious issues about admitting the effect of frankenfoods and sweet tastes on his low-carb program. He only lasted a week on Dr. Westman's diet. He only lasts a few days or a few weeks on his sweet free pledges. Some day, perhaps, he will understand that aging is what it is. He may have lost lots of weight on a particular way of eating, but he is not the same person he was five years ago. And all the rationalization in the world does not fool Mother Nature.Stargazeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09566854038842118222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-20458141451631017422009-01-29T07:24:00.000-08:002009-01-29T07:24:00.000-08:00He hasn't! I am hoping there are no underlying is...He hasn't! I am hoping there are no underlying issues other than the fact that he is a carboholic.<BR/><BR/>I guess that as long as he is happy then we should be happy for him.Asclepiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14604117979253596512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-34458572231857526822009-01-29T07:00:00.000-08:002009-01-29T07:00:00.000-08:00Cheers Asclepius - interesting.Thorpe has not kept...Cheers Asclepius - interesting.<BR/><BR/>Thorpe has not kept in shape has he!Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223657383325055342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2467994117916260529.post-10967718772413871552009-01-29T05:33:00.000-08:002009-01-29T05:33:00.000-08:00One of the guys who wrote this paper was on a webs...One of the guys who wrote this paper was on a website giving it the old 'eat less do more' line:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=339222&v=1<BR/><BR/>The thread discussed Steve Redgrave's diet and his subsequent diabetes, and mention was made of Michael Phelps. The following article might make us ALL think more about conditioned eating and/or non-paleo diets:<BR/><BR/>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1130624/Olympic-swimmer-Ian-The-Thorpedo-Thorpe-shows-expanding-girth-years-away-pool.htmlAsclepiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14604117979253596512noreply@blogger.com